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        |  Kwint Sommer
 Caldari
 Deep Core Mining Inc.
 
 
       | Posted - 2009.12.14 00:58:00 -
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  Originally by: cosmoray Well you can't prove you have the assets, then who will invest??
 
 Who is EVER going to trust you if you don't prove a significant amount of assets under control.
 
 If there is 1.1T in assets, someone MUST be controlling it.
 Even if many people are sharing the assets, one person must have at least 100B of assets.
 
 Allow me to audit of one person in your business with at least 100B in company assets, otherwise:
 
 
 
 
 
 THIS IS A COMPLETE SCAM
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 note: nice website, waste of money.
 
 
 
 
 
 This thread was dead on arrival and I see the communities already done a fine job beating its limp corpse so I'll simply echo Cosmoray:
 
 If you have 1.1T in the course of all of 10 minutes you should be able to prove at least a couple hundred billion of those and secure plenty of further investment.
 
 Given your refusal to provide even the slightest evidence of any actual investment combined with the fact that the only person we know to be involved is a throw-away day-old alt I declare this a total scam and a rather lazy one at that.
 
 
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        |  Kwint Sommer
 Caldari
 Deep Core Mining Inc.
 
 
       | Posted - 2009.12.14 02:38:00 -
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  Originally by: Tiberizzle 
  Quote: The only suggestion I can make to people is to invest the minimum so that we can invest it and make a payment to you on the 15th of January.
 
 
 lol @ "I can only provide proof if you send me ISK"
 
 
 Indeed.
 
 Here's a summary of this "offering" so far:
 
 
 
 Day old alt claims to be managing 1.1T and asks for more.
 Community asks him to prove any part of his statement, especially the 1.1T.
 Alt makes lots of excuses and proves nothing.
 Community keeps pushing.
 Alt says send me your ISK and I'll prove it.
 Offering written off as scam unless proof is forthcoming.
 
 So Mr. Alt, where's the beef? Show us you're a managing hundreds of billions and we can talk, otherwise put some more effort into your scam before you come back.
 
 
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        |  Kwint Sommer
 Caldari
 Deep Core Mining Inc.
 
 
       | Posted - 2009.12.14 02:43:00 -
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  Originally by: ThreeEleven Get out the torches and pitchforks everyone...
 Seriously though, I've invested quite a bit of isk with these guys for a while now and I have nothing but good things to say. Granted I would have preferred all of us to stay out of the public eye, for obvious reasons, I guess change isn't all that bad. This is an opportunity to do something with the isk that is gathering dust in your wallet and speaking from experience with these guys, its worth it.
 
 If you're interested in this venture, please ask questions so that they can be answered. If you're not interested, thanks for reading and I wish you a pleasant day.
 
 
 Well, so long as a character selling alt that has made a grand total of 2 posts in his entire history says they're legit....
 
 I'll tell you what, prove to me that they're turning profits on anywhere near 1T ISK and I'll chip in 10B.
 For a little proof I'll invest 10B, for a lot I might just match Cosmoray's 100B. Until then, this screams scam.
 
 
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        |  Kwint Sommer
 Caldari
 Deep Core Mining Inc.
 
 
       | Posted - 2009.12.14 03:16:00 -
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  Originally by: Latesh Verrinoir 
 Please, if you're going to insult me, at least do your research. I was born on 2006.06.27, which makes me more than 2 years old.
 
 
 I have done my research. Here are the results,
 
 
  Quote: First post 2009-12-13 20:51:00 (in thread Infinite Investments - A Collective Investment Opportunity)
 
 
 
 You've never bothered to use that alt prior to today. Regardless of when you rolled him, he was nothing prior to today and that makes him a day-old alt.
 
 
 
  Originally by: Latesh Verrinoir I would like to have someone prove to me that this IS a scam.
 
 
 Regarding the rest, you are asking us for money. It is incumbent upon you to prove that this business is not a scam, not us.
 
 Thus far you have provided absolutely no substantial evidence that this is anything other than an attempt by a very long since created day-old alt to scam us. I hope you do, in fact I'll toss in 10B to 100B if you do but you haven't and you don't show signs of doing so.
 
 I offered to give you 10-100B and your response is to deride my lack of civility? My responses may be harsh but they are not unreasonable and more to the point I'm putting money on the table. I've been making harsh responses like this since before you even rolled your alt and do you know what? Legitimate businessmen have gone back and forth with me and ultimately accordingly gotten investment with the single exception of DBANK and it would seem I was right to stick to my guns there. Conversely, every single scammer has attempted to dismiss my complaints as uncivil or elitist or otherwise objectionable which they may well be but they have a point and the honest men have addressed them and thus far you have not. So, find an auditor of some kind, prove you're profitably managing assets on the scale you claim and I'll write my apology on the back of a check. Otherwise, this is a scam and no amount of critiquing my civility will change that.
 
 
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        |  Kwint Sommer
 Caldari
 Deep Core Mining Inc.
 
 
       | Posted - 2009.12.14 04:40:00 -
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 Edited by: Kwint Sommer on 14/12/2009 04:41:24
 
  Originally by: Latesh Verrinoir cosmoray and I have discussed the situation and will have proper results within 48 hours.
 
 
 That's great to hear, I'll try to free up 10B in cash on the hope that this is in fact genuine.
 
 I would like to add though that simply finding 40 people who's assets total to 1.1T and have sent you a B here and there does not prove anything other than a well orchestrated scheme. The point at which an audit truly proves something is when you show that this is a fully functioning enterprise, not merely a lot of wealthy friends discretely cycling your own money back to you. So Cosmo, please bring back proper results, not merely an acknowledgment that Latesh has wealthy friends.
 
 
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        |  Kwint Sommer
 Caldari
 Deep Core Mining Inc.
 
 
       | Posted - 2009.12.16 00:14:00 -
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  Originally by: Latesh Verrinoir 
  Originally by: cosmoray 
 It was/is a SCAM, you got called on it and can't back away from it.
 
 
 Full Convo in it's glory
 
 
 Were this reality, a lawsuit would be coming your way for liable and slander. You're lucky it's not reality. Were it reality, I would also have no problem with a company audit. In this case, it's unfortunate that this is not reality.
 
 Regardless of what you may believe, this is not a scam and is very real. However, I'm done discussing this here.
 
 
 Now, now, calm down. I know you put a lot of hours into this but your scam fell through and there's nothing you can do. You just have to take it on the chin like a man. Once the cards are on the table and your bluff is plain to see continuing to posture and bluster just makes you look silly. Either walk away with the few shards of dignity your alt has left or shake hands and give credit where credit is due. This whining and insulting well after its over is just childish. You played a decent gambit but you lost. Acknowledge it and walk away.
 
 
 
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        |  Kwint Sommer
 Caldari
 Deep Core Mining Inc.
 
 
       | Posted - 2009.12.17 02:29:00 -
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 True to my word, I freed up 10B on the one in a couple thousand chance that this wasn't a complete scam. Any advice on where I should invest the money?
 
 
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        |  Kwint Sommer
 Caldari
 Deep Core Mining Inc.
 
 
       | Posted - 2009.12.17 02:55:00 -
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  Originally by: Ji Sama 
  Originally by: SetrakDark 
  Originally by: Kwint Sommer True to my word, I freed up 10B on the one in a couple thousand chance that this wasn't a complete scam. Any advice on where I should invest the money?
 
 
 
 Buy my jidsale shares.
 
 
 no you should buy my frozen ebank isk :D
 
 
 Thanks but EBANK made sure I'm well invested there.
  
 
 
  Originally by: SetrakDark 
  Originally by: Ji Sama no you should buy my frozen ebank isk :D
 
 
 Are Ihatalo Cartel (whatever they're called) still doing this? Their offer was really generous.
 
 
 That's the real reason I'm not doing it. I'd happily buy up 40B at .25 cents on the dollar, perhaps even a bit more but to actually get takers I'd have to pay >40 cents on the dollar for debt currently valued at 20 cents on the dollar and I'm just not prepared to do that, especially not given EBANK's incredibly sluggish response thus far.
 
 
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